Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Glad your not too badly hurt. Scary stuff on these roads!
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. <IMG_7593.jpeg>
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Glad you are well. Sorry about bike. If you can walk away that is all that matters.
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St,
WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of
the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must
yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park
looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was
she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple
of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went
back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new
road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already.
Be careful out there! Also, there really
is safety in numbers (group rides).
Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube.
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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So sorry to hear of your misfortune. You might want to reach out to bicycle lawyer Daniel Flanzig so you can at the very least get your bicycle replaced and any co-pays for medical
On Thursday, 11 November 2021, 17:18:14 GMT-5, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Your a lucky man Jeff. Good to hear you weren’t too hurt.
I was on the phone this morning with Dan discussing my sons non-bike related injury. He’s a good guy to contact and at least discuss your situation.
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Fredric Itkin via groups.io <FBIKEWHEELS@...> wrote:
So sorry to hear of your misfortune. You might want to reach out to bicycle lawyer Daniel Flanzig so you can at the very least get your bicycle replaced and any co-pays for medical
On Thursday, 11 November 2021, 17:18:14 GMT-5, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
  
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Jeff, sorry to hear about this. Hope you are ok and the bike issue works out as well
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Glad you are okay. Bikes can be replaced, not so easy to replace a person.
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:18 PM Jeffrey Erlitz < jefferlitz@...> wrote: Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Thanks for sharing to help others Jeff. So happy to hear you're fine. New bike day coming
Barry
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 5:30 PM Malachy OConnor < malachyo@...> wrote: Jeff, sorry to hear about this. Hope you are ok and the bike issue works out as well Malachy Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube.
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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You’re one lucky dude. Thank g-d you’re okay. I guess you’ll be making a purchase soon. I’m happy you’re okay. Dan
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:18 PM Jeffrey Erlitz < jefferlitz@...> wrote: Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Hi Jeff,
Sorry about the accident and your bike, but glad you weren’t seriously injured! Mike Shapiro
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. <IMG_7593.jpeg>
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Jeff, Sorry to hear about your accident, but thankful to hear that you are ok. Bikes are replaceable; you’re not. Hope to see you back in the saddle soon.
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You’re one lucky dude. Thank g-d you’re okay. I guess you’ll be making a purchase soon. I’m happy you’re okay. Dan On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:18 PM Jeffrey Erlitz < jefferlitz@...> wrote: Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. <IMG_7593.jpeg>
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay. <IMG_7594.jpeg>
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes. <IMG_7595.jpeg>
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Glad you're going to be all right and glad you decided to make a scene.
Merry
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From: Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...>
To: HBC Riders <HBCRiders@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 5:18 pm
Subject: [HBCRiders] What? ANOTHER Accident?!?!
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).
Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube.
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Jeff, I am happy to know that you are not hurt badly. Larry Denbaum
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Fredric Itkin via groups.io <FBIKEWHEELS@...> wrote:
So sorry to hear of your misfortune. You might want to reach out to bicycle lawyer Daniel Flanzig so you can at the very least get your bicycle replaced and any co-pays for medical
On Thursday, 11 November 2021, 17:18:14 GMT-5, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
  
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Jeff
We are so sorry to hear this. Relieved that you r ok but how horrible. This guy's insurance should get you a new bike. You r such a careful rider. Shows you how this can happen to anyone. Reach out to Dan!!!
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From: Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...>
Date: 11/11/21 5:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: HBC Riders <HBCRiders@groups.io>
Subject: [HBCRiders] What? ANOTHER Accident?!?!
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St,
WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the
bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must
yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park
looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was
she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple
of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went
back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road
bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already.
Be careful out there! Also, there really
is safety in numbers (group rides).
Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube.
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Sal Levy
Glad you’re ok Jeff. It’s crazy what we’re seeing out there. A split second made the difference between a seat stay and a leg bone in your case. Being careful requires being lucky to remain unharmed. We’re involved in a risky sport. No more accidents! The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time. 🚴🏄🏻😎
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. <IMG_7593.jpeg>
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Bruce Feinberg
Dear Jeff,
Not easy reading about your accident, thank G-d you checked out with just a few bruises and could walk away. You will get a new bicycle and you will be riding soon.
Sincerely,
Bruce
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From: Larry Denbaum <ldenbaum@...>
To: main@hbcriders.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] What? ANOTHER Accident?!?!
Jeff, I am happy to know that you are not hurt badly.
Larry Denbaum
On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Fredric Itkin via groups.io <FBIKEWHEELS@...> wrote:
So sorry to hear of your misfortune. You might want to reach out to bicycle lawyer Daniel Flanzig so you can at the very least get your bicycle replaced and any co-pays for medical
On Thursday, 11 November 2021, 17:18:14 GMT-5, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).
Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube.
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
  
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Fredric Itkin via groups.io <FBIKEWHEELS@...> wrote:
So sorry to hear of your misfortune. You might want to reach out to bicycle lawyer Daniel Flanzig so you can at the very least get your bicycle replaced and any co-pays for medical
On Thursday, 11 November 2021, 17:18:14 GMT-5, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
  
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John Greene
Jeff,
Just when you think you are safe! This is proof we all have to ride defensively and always expect the worst.Think of all the mileage we all put in and you never know......
I'm just very relieved you are OK and hope you get a new bike out of all of this.
John
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Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Jeff, To know that riding in a group is much, much safer, is knowledge we can’t always apply. Today near the end of my ride with the C.O.M. I needed to be home before a 1 PM because of a house showing and then get out of the house during it. I soloed home from Half Hollow Rd and then to the VA in Northport. A total of over 15 miles solo. So when necessary you do it. But yes, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE! And take no chances or short cuts.
Hope the soreness and aches are short lasting.
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. 
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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Jeff Good to hear your weren’t hurt too badly. Hope you get the new bike.
Carl
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On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Jeffrey Erlitz <jefferlitz@...> wrote: Hi All,
Yours truly was hit by a car yesterday afternoon while returning from a solo ride to Glen Cove, on W Rogues Path at Oakwood Rd. I had just started to proceed east on W 11th St, WITH THE GREEN LIGHT, when a left turning car, apparently blinded by the low sun in the west (as he explained to the police), decided to plow into me. Fortunately, he hit the rear of the bicycle and not me per se. Nevertheless, down I went. He actually stopped to see if I was dead or alive and was very apologetic. Still, laying there on my back in the middle of Oakwood Road, I decided to “instruct” him on the fact that left turns must yield to straight moves through an intersection, end of discussion.
I also decided that, even though nothing specifically hurt me (I could feel my fingers and toes) I was going to “create a scene” and not move until EMS showed up. The police arrived first (there was an RMP sitting on W Rogues west of Breezy Park looking to catch speeders) and he showed up first. So I got carted off to Huntington Hospital and the police brought my bicycle home and presented same to Marie, who happened to be home. Boy, was she surprised! The police officer who initially responded checked into the ER to hand me back my ID and give me the completed accident report. I checked out okay in the ER and was discharged. I needed to ice a couple of bumps on my legs and took an Advil.
Long story short, I am fine, apparently. The bike, not so good. After thinking that only (!) the rear derailleur was damaged, I discovered today that the left seat stay had completely broken off. That is exactly where the car impacted me. I went back to the scene of the crime this afternoon and, sure enough, I found part of the left seat stay by the west curb of Oakwood Road!
Sadly, the six-year-old bike is a total loss. On the upside, I seem to be fine, which is clearly the more important of the two and I should be getting a new road bike out this.
We’ve said this a million times already. Be careful out there! Also, there really is safety in numbers (group rides).Jeff Erlitz
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the seat tube. <IMG_7593.jpeg>
Spot where the former left seat stay attached to the left chain stay.
Rear derailleur tangled between the spokes.
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