I agree with all. Personally I prefer the mountain bike cleats for all the stated reasons. However if you buy a good mountain bike shoe, you can have the same stiff sole as with the road shoes. I have Sidi's as do many club members. They are fantastic shoes but they are expensive 

The the only other thing I will add on top of what everyone else has said is that you can buy Mountain pedals that are one-sided and have a wider support base just like most road pedals. I have a nice pair of Shimano pedals with a lot of support and a fair amount of float. If you are interested I can look up the model number.

Good luck

Scott L. Gross MD, FAAFP

Chair,  Family Medicine, Huntington Hospital

Assistant Professor, Family Medicine,  Zucker School of Medicine, Hofstra/Northwell

Assistant Professor, Family Medicine & Orthopedics, Stony Brook University School of Medicine

Assistant Professor, Family & Community Medicine, Albany Medical College

-------- Original message --------

From: "Daniel Steinbach via Groups.Io" <dansteinbach=yahoo.com@groups.io>

Date: 1/24/20 2:52 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Look Keo are the most common in my experience on road bikes with Speedplay being the second most - well at least with they guys I ride with. But if you are more concerned with being comfortable than going just a tiny bit faster, then mountain bike pedals are the choice. Shimano SPDs are the most common on MTBs and Crank Bros Egg Beater pedals are probably 2nd. I have SPDs on the MTB and love them. Easy to get in on either side, very durable which is probably more of a concern off-road. The cleats for SPDs are also metal so they don't wear out as fast. 

Performance wise, the biggest increase in efficiency that you can add to any bike are clipless pedals. You will go much faster on a $1000 bike with clipless pedals than on a $3000 bike with plain flat pedals. Practice going up and down your street before going with a group. Leave the tension as loose as possible when you start. It doesn't matter which foot you unclip but typically  individuals always unclip the same foot out of habit. When you first start, every time you start braking, think about unclipping your foot. After a few rides, you won't even think about it. The key is that you can apply force almost over the whole pedal stroke so you can pull back and up as well as push down. They also will keep you from slipping off a pedal and keep your foot in the right position so you are most efficient. You want the cleat aligned so that your knee tracks in the same plane and doesn't go in and out. Really best to go to a good shop or at least find a friend who is knowledgeable about bike fitting when setting things up. 

Good luck,

Dan

On Friday, January 24, 2020, 01:55:54 PM EST, Matt Frisch <frischome@...> wrote:

I find the mountain bike style with the recessed cleats more comfortable but most serious road bike riders use the other kind. The mountain bike shoes tend to be softer but for that reason not as efficient as road bike shoes at transferring the force from your foot to the pedal.

Matt

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Richard Meyer <rmeyer3@...>

Date: 1/24/20 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Larry, I have shamano pedals that work with the recessed cleats. 

A lot easier walking when off the bike. 

If you need new shoes they are called mountain bike shoes that have the recessed area for the cleats. 

Good luck. 

Rich Meyer 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Larry Wilson <lw8800@...> wrote:

I have never owned clip in pedals and looking to upgrade to them now (before spring).

Can anyone recommend the best type or brand for a road bike?

Thanks,
Larry Wilson 

I agree with all. Personally I prefer the mountain bike cleats for all the stated reasons. However if you buy a good mountain bike shoe, you can have the same stiff sole as with the road shoes. I have Sidi's as do many club members. They are fantastic shoes but they are expensive 

The the only other thing I will add on top of what everyone else has said is that you can buy Mountain pedals that are one-sided and have a wider support base just like most road pedals. I have a nice pair of Shimano pedals with a lot of support and a fair amount of float. If you are interested I can look up the model number.

Good luck

Scott L. Gross MD, FAAFP

Chair,  Family Medicine, Huntington Hospital

Assistant Professor, Family Medicine,  Zucker School of Medicine, Hofstra/Northwell

Assistant Professor, Family Medicine & Orthopedics, Stony Brook University School of Medicine

Assistant Professor, Family & Community Medicine, Albany Medical College

-------- Original message --------

From: "Daniel Steinbach via Groups.Io" <dansteinbach=yahoo.com@groups.io>

Date: 1/24/20 2:52 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Look Keo are the most common in my experience on road bikes with Speedplay being the second most - well at least with they guys I ride with. But if you are more concerned with being comfortable than going just a tiny bit faster, then mountain bike pedals are the choice. Shimano SPDs are the most common on MTBs and Crank Bros Egg Beater pedals are probably 2nd. I have SPDs on the MTB and love them. Easy to get in on either side, very durable which is probably more of a concern off-road. The cleats for SPDs are also metal so they don't wear out as fast. 

Performance wise, the biggest increase in efficiency that you can add to any bike are clipless pedals. You will go much faster on a $1000 bike with clipless pedals than on a $3000 bike with plain flat pedals. Practice going up and down your street before going with a group. Leave the tension as loose as possible when you start. It doesn't matter which foot you unclip but typically  individuals always unclip the same foot out of habit. When you first start, every time you start braking, think about unclipping your foot. After a few rides, you won't even think about it. The key is that you can apply force almost over the whole pedal stroke so you can pull back and up as well as push down. They also will keep you from slipping off a pedal and keep your foot in the right position so you are most efficient. You want the cleat aligned so that your knee tracks in the same plane and doesn't go in and out. Really best to go to a good shop or at least find a friend who is knowledgeable about bike fitting when setting things up. 

Good luck,

Dan

On Friday, January 24, 2020, 01:55:54 PM EST, Matt Frisch <frischome@...> wrote:

I find the mountain bike style with the recessed cleats more comfortable but most serious road bike riders use the other kind. The mountain bike shoes tend to be softer but for that reason not as efficient as road bike shoes at transferring the force from your foot to the pedal.

Matt

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Richard Meyer <rmeyer3@...>

Date: 1/24/20 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Larry, I have shamano pedals that work with the recessed cleats. 

A lot easier walking when off the bike. 

If you need new shoes they are called mountain bike shoes that have the recessed area for the cleats. 

Good luck. 

Rich Meyer 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Larry Wilson <lw8800@...> wrote:

I have never owned clip in pedals and looking to upgrade to them now (before spring).

Can anyone recommend the best type or brand for a road bike?

Thanks,
Larry Wilson 

Look Keo are the most common in my experience on road bikes with Speedplay being the second most - well at least with they guys I ride with. But if you are more concerned with being comfortable than going just a tiny bit faster, then mountain bike pedals are the choice. Shimano SPDs are the most common on MTBs and Crank Bros Egg Beater pedals are probably 2nd. I have SPDs on the MTB and love them. Easy to get in on either side, very durable which is probably more of a concern off-road. The cleats for SPDs are also metal so they don't wear out as fast. 

Performance wise, the biggest increase in efficiency that you can add to any bike are clipless pedals. You will go much faster on a $1000 bike with clipless pedals than on a $3000 bike with plain flat pedals. Practice going up and down your street before going with a group. Leave the tension as loose as possible when you start. It doesn't matter which foot you unclip but typically  individuals always unclip the same foot out of habit. When you first start, every time you start braking, think about unclipping your foot. After a few rides, you won't even think about it. The key is that you can apply force almost over the whole pedal stroke so you can pull back and up as well as push down. They also will keep you from slipping off a pedal and keep your foot in the right position so you are most efficient. You want the cleat aligned so that your knee tracks in the same plane and doesn't go in and out. Really best to go to a good shop or at least find a friend who is knowledgeable about bike fitting when setting things up. 

Good luck,

Dan

On Friday, January 24, 2020, 01:55:54 PM EST, Matt Frisch <frischome@...> wrote:

I find the mountain bike style with the recessed cleats more comfortable but most serious road bike riders use the other kind. The mountain bike shoes tend to be softer but for that reason not as efficient as road bike shoes at transferring the force from your foot to the pedal.

Matt

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Richard Meyer <rmeyer3@...>

Date: 1/24/20 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Larry, I have shamano pedals that work with the recessed cleats. 

A lot easier walking when off the bike. 

If you need new shoes they are called mountain bike shoes that have the recessed area for the cleats. 

Good luck. 

Rich Meyer 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Larry Wilson <lw8800@...> wrote:

I have never owned clip in pedals and looking to upgrade to them now (before spring).

Can anyone recommend the best type or brand for a road bike?

Thanks,
Larry Wilson 

Look Keo are the most common in my experience on road bikes with Speedplay being the second most - well at least with they guys I ride with. But if you are more concerned with being comfortable than going just a tiny bit faster, then mountain bike pedals are the choice. Shimano SPDs are the most common on MTBs and Crank Bros Egg Beater pedals are probably 2nd. I have SPDs on the MTB and love them. Easy to get in on either side, very durable which is probably more of a concern off-road. The cleats for SPDs are also metal so they don't wear out as fast. 

Performance wise, the biggest increase in efficiency that you can add to any bike are clipless pedals. You will go much faster on a $1000 bike with clipless pedals than on a $3000 bike with plain flat pedals. Practice going up and down your street before going with a group. Leave the tension as loose as possible when you start. It doesn't matter which foot you unclip but typically  individuals always unclip the same foot out of habit. When you first start, every time you start braking, think about unclipping your foot. After a few rides, you won't even think about it. The key is that you can apply force almost over the whole pedal stroke so you can pull back and up as well as push down. They also will keep you from slipping off a pedal and keep your foot in the right position so you are most efficient. You want the cleat aligned so that your knee tracks in the same plane and doesn't go in and out. Really best to go to a good shop or at least find a friend who is knowledgeable about bike fitting when setting things up. 

Good luck,

Dan

On Friday, January 24, 2020, 01:55:54 PM EST, Matt Frisch <frischome@...> wrote:

I find the mountain bike style with the recessed cleats more comfortable but most serious road bike riders use the other kind. The mountain bike shoes tend to be softer but for that reason not as efficient as road bike shoes at transferring the force from your foot to the pedal.

Matt

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------

From: Richard Meyer <rmeyer3@...>

Date: 1/24/20 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@hbcriders.groups.io

Subject: Re: [HBCRiders] Clip in Pedals

Larry, I have shamano pedals that work with the recessed cleats. 

A lot easier walking when off the bike. 

If you need new shoes they are called mountain bike shoes that have the recessed area for the cleats. 

Good luck. 

Rich Meyer 

On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Larry Wilson <lw8800@...> wrote:

I have never owned clip in pedals and looking to upgrade to them now (before spring).

Can anyone recommend the best type or brand for a road bike?

Thanks,
Larry Wilson